I can agree with your post Auf.  Well said.  It all boils down to throwing rocks when no rocks need throwing.  This is why I scratch my head about the whole ordeal.  Constantly bringing it up is not only pointless, but is a fool way of trying to get the last word.


In closing.. Chuckie, you're welcome to the last word.  Everything about this from my perspective is simply humor.  We are both opinionated and neither of us like getting our toes stepped on.

I agree to dissagree.  Nuff said.. end of story.

I totaly agree.  I'm tired of this topic being chewed by chuckie every time I turn around, in game and especially in forums.  But hey, I'll humor the guy if he keeps wanting to go at it.  I'm patient.


Hearing about this over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and .......

I'm sure i've made the picture very clear.  This would push more people to stay out of the forums than attract them.  Yet, I'm pretty adimant about defending my possition on this.


I'll go one step further.... Chuckie, if it still bothers you, just put up a damn vote so this can be settled.  Oh... An UNBIASED one would be best.  I'll even do one for ya if you are really as clueless as you lead me to believe.

Some take humor out of this, and ironicly, I am one that finds a hell of alot of humor in this.  It keeps me posting more from the pleasure of it all.  Hell, I'm a happy guy, I like to laugh too.  Im not the one pushing the button to keep bringing this up, but I'll definatly oblige... And still, it's getting old.

Im all about showing the ping!

"Null point error anulled"



I didnt do it!!!! 

ok ok ok... if ya wanna play with me chuckie, you gotta do it here where it goes so people arnt so clueless.



You may begin.... again      lol

"Guess you've never heard of privacy laws, or read the privacy clause in a written contract, or filled out a consent form to have your medical records shared in a doctor's office. I take it serious, even in personal communications online, non-business, it still applies."


LOL  You're kidding me, right?  Are you really that daft?

Sorry, doesnt apply here, nurse.

You talk about me making assumptions.

You made a few yourself.

1.  You assumed the person who posted the public thread orignally complained to me.
2.  You assumed I was admin.
3.  You posted my email to try to make him look like the bad guy, and I had to stand up and point out, that he had little to do with my email to you, other than that in my mind, I saw what appeared to me to be him making a call out that I believed was incorrect.
4.  Was I sticking my nose in?  Yeah, but I didn't want anyone to feel on the spot, and that is why I sent a private message.  To me private messages are like mail in the mail box.  It's illegal to open other peoples mail without their consent and illegal to share the contents without their consent, so even if my private email was in the wrong, you posting it publicly, instead of responding privately was even more wrong.

You could have and should have privately responded and asked me who the hell I was, that wouldn't have offended me.  You could have said anything you wanted and I wouldn't have cared, told me it was none of my business, whatever, would have stopped right there.  What you did was what I consider the greatest of all great offenses.  Violation of right to privacy.  That will live on in my mind forever.  Once it's public, it stays public.  Since you don't seem to get that, it will keep coming up.  I will comment, I don't care if you think it's stupid, or childish, or even funny.  Guess you've never heard of privacy laws, or read the privacy clause in a written contract, or filled out a consent form to have your medical records shared in a doctor's office.  I take it serious, even in personal communications online, non-business, it still applies.

1.... No, I didnt assume.  It's what the original person made mention.  It was one of those... "I know chuckie, he will deal with this!" leading me to believe at first that you were some sort of forum or game op/admin.  Read the original thread again chum...  And of course, you came out of the woodwork as though you were.  So whats the diffrence?

2.... See #1 and original thread.  We had this conversation.  And again... You acted like you were someone of worth.  Sorry, hah, I was definatly wrong in this.

3.... Nope, posted your pm to make YOU look like the badguy.  Nah, actually I posted your PM to prove a point.  What came out of it was more less, you stickin your nose in something that didnt pertain to you.  I made it public because I wanted you to see just how ignorant you were in what you said and how you handled it, mr forum op.

4....   Didnt want anyone to feel on the spot huh?  laughable!  You certainly made me have to defend myself... what would you call that?

Think about it... What If I sent you a PM and said... "Chuckie, I dont like the way you're playing.  THIS is how you play mule. THIS is how you do things in MY game.  THIS is how you respect others.  Because I've seen people do this, you are the guilty one and I have all the facts I need to assume that you dont know anything about MULE or how WE play here."

To be honest, I think it was more less a polite way of saying, "this is how you play, if you dont like it, piss off looser.. Stop upsetting a childlike persona and learn to play the game the way I play the game... There is NO OTHER WAY".

Get over yourself dude.

You dont even know what wrong is... You been sucking down some of those pills in the PRIVATE SECURE medical cabnet again?  If you open my FEDERALY secure mail out of my mailbox, that is a crime.  If i post your PM to me publicly... That is called public information.  Just because it says private message does not mean it's going to be left as such, especially when it's sent to someone who wishes to make it public.  Remember chum, i was the recipient.  I can do with it as I wish.  It is MINE is it not?  So I would have the only and final say as to what happens to that "private message".

If you really believed this, you wouldnt have retaliated publicly in the lobby. As you expected your PM to be, you would have acted accordingly.

Here you are still at it, trying to justify what you believe, yet you dont try to counter any of my explinations.

Chuckie....  It's an Orange!

Null....  It's not an orange.  It's flipping Yellow and looks like a bananna!

Chuckie....  It's a rock!

Null...  How can it be a rock if it's moving???

Chuckie....  Thats against the law!!!

Null...  Whats against the law???  The rock or the orange!

Chuckie.... You're an idiot!

Null....  How am I an idiot?

Chuckie....  It's a YELLOW ORANGE thats shaped like a bananna orange because I'm a nurse.

Null...  WHAT?

Chuckie... It was a PRIVATE Orange!

Null... Who cares.  get a life man.  Really!

As dynadan would say....good read!

-I give 2 thumbs up!!
  Now can you 2 kiss an make up(its valentines day), maybe play some mule together?

ps. Is this why there are so many lurkers in the lobby??, all too busy posting shit i guess. Oh well
 
@chucky an null- XOXOXO

LoL

Good, someone else is starting to see the humor in all this.

P.S.

So you think I'm stupid and anal.  You're right, I am way anal about things relating to privacy.  I respect privacy.  I don't respect people that don't.  They don't deserve my respect.

hahah  just as private as the things you stated publicly about me in the forums.  How does that make your way better than mine?  How does it justify what you did?

Sorry, private and public jabs at me are the same in my book.  If you send someone something, you better make damn sure they feel the same way you do so you wont end up in this endless, stupid bickering.  Remember chum, you took it upon yourself to bring this sillyness up again.  Hey, if you cant give it a rest, I'm certainly not expecting to run out of breath on this one.  My fingers do not tire.


So fine... I pissed you off by responding to you publicly instead of privately.  I'm not in the medical field.  I'm in a diffrent field that's just as "private" as you, and I certainly dont see how it relates to public forums relating to a game.  Its not a secret that I dont look at things the way you do.  ....and I dont mind speaking publicly about it.  Sorry again.... You are not the do all end all of "how things should be".  You are one person....Not the only person, and you certainly do not make the rules no matter what you think hey should be.

Sorry, I've worked in the medical field, and private is private is private, and there are no exceptions and I treat everything that way.  You pasted my PRIVATE email PUBLICLY.

That is and always has been my only one true beef with you, nothing more than that.

Before I paste what was stated in private, I ask permission of the person who said that, it actually is a written law in the legal and healthcare professions and I carry it into everything in life.

Excuse me for thinking everyone knows that.

I dont see the medical field related to mule and forums in any way shape or form.  This is a game.  Know the diffrence.  I never accused you of being stupid as you say, if I'm not mistaken, it was you who called me an idiot, not the other way around.  Private messages might have that value to you, but it has nothing of value to me.  Private or public, it was addressed to me... My public post/responce was addressed to you and those involved in the bashing that you carelessly threw at me for no real purpose what so ever other than to try and discredit me as you did in the lobby as well as in the forums.  So tell me again how that makes you right.

General rule of professional etiquette.

Sorry, I had to touch on this..

Who's rule is this again?  Certainly not mine... I dont think I've seen this anywhere.  Can you show me where it is written, oh powerful one!?!

LOL  You got to get over this dude.  You're gonna get an ulcer....

Read above... I told you why i didnt respond to you privately.  If you're still clueless, read the above reply again..

I dont know you.  I dont care about how you feel I should have responded.

"then blamed me responding publicly (when you were in fact the one that made it public.)"

I never said that I blamed you for responding publicly.   It's OBVIOUS that I did respond publicly.  Why not kill two birds with one stone?   Publicly....

So now you not only cant get over yourself, but you're delusional too....   Where did I say that you responded publicly???

You didnt do a good deed.  Hell, a good deed would have been to stfu and mind your own business bud.

Remember it as long as you like.  Glad I could help you delusional fading memory.

If you were curious you would have asked a question... which again, was none of your concern... Your PM was a statement, not a question.  Get your facts together chuckie.  You're dribbling again.

You were so busy trying to make ME see where HE was comming from, yet you knew nothing about me, and you obviously didnt give a rats ass about where I was comming from.  So you basicly chose a side without knowing anything about anything and made an assumption (ass) of who you thought I was without ever so much as opening a dialogue with me, yet instead, you chose to correct me and my playstyle WHEN YOU DIDNT EVEN KNOW ME.  Didnt your mom ever teach you to mind your own, especially when it doesnt pertain to you?

We call that shit starters and instigaters where i come from... What do you call it?  An act of kindness? Hardly.

You're taling in circles.  You dont make sense...  You wasnt convinced that I was a problem, so you checked the logs?  again.. nothing pertaining to you.  Do you normaly do a background check on people you think are innocent?  The person involved obviously had a childlike mentality in the way he carried himself in the forums as well as in the game over nonsense.  Sorry to say chuck, where I'm sitting, I'm seeing one hell of a similarity.  Each post you make, makes it more clear.

I have news for you... If you send something to someone, you better make damn sure you know what you're talking about, and take yourself out of "god mode" before you do, mr high and mighty.  Dont expect everyone to follow your way of thinking.  It simply isnt that kinda world buddy boy.


Idiot?  lol   did I strike a nerve?  Resorting to name calling already?  I expected a few more posts from you.  Damn, there goes those high expectations...   Fortunatly, I dont have to revert to such childish tactics with you chucky baby, you do quite well all by yourself.

If you were out to get me, you would have posted on the forums?  HAH!  You went beyond that.  You went strait to the lobby and tried calling me out to no avail.  You litteraly talked so much shit, I had to hold myself from laughing so damned hard at you.  And again, you did this without even knowing me.  You talked so much shit about me to make people not play on my servers, again.. to no avail. 

Face it chucky baby.  You dont get to me, you never will.  I will always show you the ass you make yourself out to be.  You, my friend, is what I would call a simple attention getting prick.  Hey!  I can play that too though, and the funny thing about it is, I'm actually good at it.  Except, Im not the one that comes off looking like a know it all prick.

Look chuckie miester.... just walk away and stop trolling someone elses topic.  It's embarrassing to you, the funny thing is, you just dont realise it, cowboy bebop...  Hey, I had to do it, since you started the name calling, I figured I would just toss a few your way just to be on the same page as you.


You can feel what ever you want about private messages.  In the end, it is I who decides what to do with them if they are sent to me.  If you dont wanna play nice, dont fuck with the snake that just bit you.


oh yeah.. happy valentines day squirt.  I know you need one.. You know you do!

You really still on that?  Seriously?

Lets get a few things clear... I might have played 2 games on my friends account.  I was still a "newbie" at the time.  New to P.M. at the time, yes..   I am not a newbie by any stretch to online games.  I've probably spent 15 years on MMOs and longer with online games in general.  I think you have the wrong impression of something you "think" you know.  I might annoy you, but I've only played 1 game with you.  If you have such a strong impression on that, you seriously should look at how you view things.

Look chuckie,  I'm no youngin by any means.  If someone sends you something, then whatever is sent is pretty much fair game in my book to make a point about, be it possitive or negative towards the person sending.  If you assume someone is a newb, you are basicly profiling right off the bat.  Thats not cool.  What I meant by "everyone is a smurf" is, I dont believe it's fair to anyone to give someone a handout.  Why would you lessen then value of your own abilities by giving something away?  You would be no closer to winning any games if this was the case, because I run into new players all the time.  I gave no reason for anyone to assume that I was a "quiter".  I just expect the same respect that I freely give others.  If that respect is not givin, then I certainly will retract my own.  No one should assume that just because there is a problem durring a game that the problem lies with the new person.  Thats just making a bad assumption.  I might have been new to this version of M.U.L.E., but if you ever watched how I played, even on the first day, you would see that I was definatly no stranger to the game itself.  It was a bad call on someones part due to an honest mistake that was blown WAY out of proportion.  I dont see myself, now or ever, jumping in the forums and instantly pounding the new guy because of something like this.  I've had problems with new players and old players alike, just the same.  In either case, you wont find me making a post in the forums about them unless the issue is already brought up and it's been tried and true based on REPEATED actions.

What happen here, that upset me was this...   Not only did the person involved blow things out of proportion, but people... you... That never seen me before, never played me before, didnt know anything at all about me, instantly cornered and seemed to try to jump me out of no where.  You assumed I was a certain kind of person and that seriously offended me.... So.. Touche'   If you got edgy about it, sorry buddy, you stuck out first.  The proper thing might have been to just let it take it's tole and the people involved would have hashed it out.  If it were an issue with me, by all means... Strike as you will.  But you prematurely struck out to tell me how to play something I knew very well how to play the whole while.  It didnt come off as advice.  If it were based on something else, sure, advice is welcome.  Backin your boy, on the other hand was a pretty cheep spot.  Not saying he's your boy, but you quickly jumped to his aid without knowing my side of things.  Blind assumptions simply piss people off.

The problem was not yours to diffuse.  Besides, even if you felt that it was your place to do so, you could have at least taken the chance and the time to get the scoop from me or at least play me yourself to gather your own opinion.  Instead, you forced me to give you the opinion that I wanted to give you at that point.  That opinion I wanted you to have of me at that moment was... "You better leave this guy alone because he can be just as much a dick and much more so..."

I dont find myself "slowly learning" anything.  Remember, near my 40s, I've been there, done that, and dont need anyone to tell me how to enjoy my time nor what mistakes come with it.  If you were a friend, or hell, even an aquaintance, I would have just taken it for what it was.  But you didnt know me.  You already factored an opinion based on some loose information that wasnt even correct.  It was based off of someone missfortune, the same missfortune that all of us go through often durring the many games we play.  Someone just took it way too far because they might have been having a very bad day at that time.  This still does not stop me from playing new players.  I may be skittish, but I will never deny a new player on my serves, at least the first time.  After the first game I might then make a judgement call for future games played.  Still, you will not find me crying about it, nor will I ever call someone out on a first bad game, and I definatly will not send anyone personal messages, especially when I dont know them, unless it's for something constructive.  If someone needs advice, I try to do that prior to a game starting.  Though, I find that some people dont like that much either.  Just about every new player that I've offered advice to usually leaves before the game starts.  I'm thinking perhaps that they really are smurfs or just simply dont like to hear from another how a game might be best played.  Though again, I certainly didnt take your private message as that.  If it got you upset because the info was displayed, then from my experiance, people dont usually get upset over something "usefull" being put up publicly.  In that case, you should have looked at it as me giving up "usefull" information to other NEW players that happen to read the forums.  Instead you took it as a threat, so I treated your PM as the same.

I have nothing against you, nor do I find you annoying.. save now of course.  Face it, you do it to yourself mate.  If we rub each other wrong, it's because of your missconception.  I am always indiffrent.  Wether it be Akari or anyone else.  Now I will say again, this sockmonkey guy is a diffrent story.  Thats just idiocy at it's best.  To be honest, I never really cared who has what opinion of me on here or any other game for that matter.  It's just a game.  You're just a persona behind a handle.  Why would that bother me?

I follow you there brother.  I've seen that infamous foo pulling this tactic on unknowing players often in the recent past.  I've called him out on it, and now he doesnt jump into any of my games.  It's seldom that I will play with AI, and thats ONLY when no one is around to play or the players themselves all agree on it... Or as in most of our cases, when we dont have the choice from players dropping out of the game.

This is one of the reasons why I'd like to see abandon games deteriorate after a time.  I think about 95% of the abandoned games I have are from people dropping in the 1st few rounds, which seems to be happening quite a bit with new players.  This kinda makes me skittish about playing new people, but I hate to exclude new players as we were all there once and the good shouldnt suffer for the bad.  As far as smurfs are concerned.... hah!  Everyone is a smurf to me   I play old and new as though they were just as good as anyone else.  Doing less wouldnt be fair to them anyways as they should see what they're going to be up against in the future from day one.  Taking it easy on them wouldnt be fair to them anyways.  Soooooo... Everyone is a smurf in my book    Nothing personal.

If I'm not mistaken, I think rank does deteriorate some while you do not play.  Though I think this has more to do with other players playing/winning more games, therefore pushing rank naturaly.