Quitters and how to stop the wimpification of america

[johnnyblaz8]

should quitters be banned for a time or not be able to quit or if someone is to quit the person who is winning still get the credit for the win he would of had

[jagov808]

While I appreciate the underlying sentiment of your comments I cannot condone the lack of logic they represent.

Can you now see after some period of contemplation why your remedies are impossible to implement?

I understand your pain, but you have voluntarily decided to join company with a group of techno hippies with an inclination to cross dressing and other deviant behavior such as shirtless avatars.

What could you expect? All I can say is you ought to 'be the change you wish to see in the world'. Surely you can see that complaining about being cheated out of a win by some Estonian transvestite on a 30 year old game, is the epitomization of wimpiness, hardly the realm of the alpha man.







 

[Death_Mule17]

John was robbed of the win, gohar should not have quit when he saw the game was sealed. Gohar wouldn't play me for a yr because I had threatened to quit a game.(legit reason to make a joke about restarting when gohar has all the food from rd 2-10 while 3 of us twiddled our thumbs with empty plots). I've read the chat and the verdict is guilty for gohar.

here's the chat late in the game-

Round 9 of 12

Gohar: BU

Gohar: BUY

Gohar: VBUY SPEEDY

Gohar: `so stupid

Gohar: congratualtiosn johnny

johnnyblaz8: yeah

Gohar: thats why i stopped wasu midn if i quit

Gohar: it makes zero differnce

Gohar: cant be arsed

Gohar: u got thsi game

johnnyblaz8: you want to quit

Gohar: thanks

Gohar: yeah

johnnyblaz8: yeah

Gohar: save 25 misn

Gohar: ty

johnnyblaz8: i play with you later

johnnyblaz8: cya

Gohar: cool

Gohar left the game

Computer takes over Gohar

CCMuleBot01: Player Removed, votes required to restart: 2

CCMuleBot01: Gohar Bot Reputation now: 10

mulefox: bot:restart

CCMuleBot01: Recording vote to restart: P11

CCMuleBot01: Votes Recorded: 1 of 2

johnnyblaz8: no

johnnyblaz8: dont start that

mulefox: oh yes

johnnyblaz8: dont take that from me

mulefox: gohar left! i am last

speedymule: gohar left

mulefox: i should have left

mulefox: but i did stay!

johnnyblaz8: then stay

johnnyblaz8: i never quit

mulefox: no

mulefox: gohar kills the game

johnnyblaz8: 3 more rounds

mulefox: nop

johnnyblaz8: dont be a quitter

mulefox: bot:restart

CCMuleBot01: Recording vote to restart: P11

CCMuleBot01: Votes Recorded: 1 of 2

johnnyblaz8: common

mulefox: gohar is a quitter

johnnyblaz8: speedy dont do it

mulefox: i am on last place and did stay!

speedymule: i have to agree to mulefox position

speedymule: gohar could have played to the end

johnnyblaz8: what have you read any of the blogs

johnnyblaz8: about quitting

mulefox: yep

johnnyblaz8: y would you quit

mulefox left the game

Computer takes over mulefox

CCMuleBot01: Player Removed, votes required to restart: 1

CCMuleBot01: mulefox Bot Reputation now: 4

speedymule: gohar quit

Round 10 of 12

johnnyblaz8: ty

speedymule: doeasnt make sense anymore - sry

speedymule left the game

Computer takes over speedymule



Just sayin...

Dm17

[jagov808]

Yeah, looks like Johnny got royally screwed. Fitting that it was a Brit to start off the screwing. In Gohar's defense though, he is a British insomniac. Can we really hold a sleep and dentist deprived Brit accountable for his lack of oral hygiene or premature self ejections from Mule games?

He already has to deal with the fact that David Cameron is his Prime minister. On top of that he has a queen, and he's living on the wrong side of the Atlantic. No wonder he stays up late ruminating about his lot in life whilst playing Mule. We should cut this poor man some slack.

[jagov808]

It looks like we have a classic case of two wrongs don't make a right. Apparently Mulefox and Speedy's parents were negligent in teaching that universal lesson.

Their quitting is not worse than Gohar's in and of itself. In my opinion though, they deserve more derision. If someone wants to quit, its not great, but its not a big deal. What I hate is the people in Mulefox and Speedy's position who also quit but then try to claim the moral high ground. Gohar's quitting in no way justified the quitting of the other 2 given the stage of the game they were already at, different story if this is in the first couple of rounds.

Many have tried this excuse before, at least these two haven't sunk as low as Atari400 or Google and tried to pretend their restart(quitting) was all an innocent accident.

'mulefox: gohar left! i am last' Wouldn't this be more reason for Mulefox to stay? Think about it, he could never beat Gohar in a million years. He stays in the game if Gohar stays, but if Gohar leaves, he wants to leave? From his statement he is conscious of his position, yet Gohar's leaving gives him increased odds of performing better than usual.  

Mulefox's point would be better made if he said, I want to leave because now the game is boring without Gohar. Instead he claims a badge of honour for valiantly fighting on in last place. Perhaps this line of thinking is too complex for someone like Mulefox.

[Death_Mule17]

I really dont care about mulefoxy and whats his name quitting after gohar, there noob material and when they see the #3 guy quit when he has no chance ...what are they to think? I say shame on gohar, for this and dodging the elites as of late. Gohar is setting a bad example to the noobs and giving a bad name to englishman around the world. I know gohar reads forum so I hope when he reads this he has some type of explanation for his actions in recent months.


Be nice to the noobs and teach them well or they may never come back to play..


Dm17

[jagov808]

Fair point you have changed my opinion. I think I will assign 30% blame to Gohar, 40% to mulefox, 25% to Speedymule, 5% to Johnny.

Clearly what happened here is that Gohar went bumhunting (a term I learned from online poker, which means an experienced person intentionally seeks out inexperienced to exploit them for an easy win).

It backfired on Gohar, because the noobs made some very bad decisions as noobs are likely to do. Johnny was in the position to capitalize, and this upset Gohar, who then feigned indifference and instead of expressing his frustration and anger simply quit.

My hunger strike will stand, until all three parties officially recognize their wrongdoing.

Now that mulefox and speedy have been identified in this episode it looks like my original conjecture this somehow involved Estonian transvestites was spot on.

[mr.earl]

  Quitting, getting kicked, timing out, all suck! Theses things happen. I have kids and we have multiple computers. I try to play when the kids are outside or not home. I don't think you should be penalized anymore then you get with the system in place. Folks figure it out if you think someone quits all the time don't play em. All this from someone with major abandonment issues = kids watching netflicks mostly. Your muler mr.earl

[mulefox]

Fair point you have changed my opinion. I think I will assign 30% blame to Gohar, 40% to mulefox, 25% to Speedymule, 5% to Johnny.

Jagov808 and Johnnyblaz8 you both dont understand the point!
50% blame to gohar (he left first), 50% blame to johnny (for allowing this, without asking the other players if it is ok for them)

Everyone has the same rights. If Gohar had a reason for leaving and he asked ALL PLAYERS if it is ok, than i had
no problem with it. But johnny said it is ok, and didnt ask other players like me and speedymule. So johnny made a big fault.
And Gohar is a quitter.

[muleace]

All I can say about it, is this..

I've played Gohar a dozen times, he's no quiter.

Quiting isn't cool, there's never any reason to do so, unless there's an emergency.

[jagov808]

Obviously Gohar quit, but perhaps it is inappropriate to call him a quitter. I believe in this case he just got a little too deep into a crate of Newcastle brown ale and was forced to abandon. We can see from the chat log that he was losing touch with the Queen's English and was spelling like a Welshman.

After giving this issue lengthy deliberation and changing my mind several times, I think the bulk of the blame must rest upon Gohar. While his part in this affair is not the most nefarious he is the only one involved with a fully functioning triple digit IQ; so he should be held to a higher standard.

My claim that mulefox and speedy acted with the morals of a Talinn based transvestite drug addled street hooker still stand though.

[speedymule]

Jagov - i usually do not communicate with my best clients as a "Talinn based transvestite drug addled street hooker" outside business but i want you to answer simple questions:

Who voted you/Johnny to make independend game rules for each player ?
Gohar wanted to quit and asked you (just you) if it is ok for U - you agreed and said it is no problem for you ( see chat protocol above ). No one asked mulefox or me if we are ok with this as well.
After Gohar quit mulefox claimed the same "right" to quit your granted Gohar before for himself as he had no chance to win since rd4 but stayed until this and he wanted to "save 25min" like Gohar.
You/Johnny denied HIS request - why different rules for different players ?
Mulefox got upset about this and quit without "YOUR" permission to do so.
I was in position 2 with a very low chance to turn the game in the last 3 rd, but still a chance of about 15%
at this point with 2nd for sure. But now with two AIs willing to sell everything in qty @ a low price this game got senseless and i claimed the same right YOU granted Gohar at first for myself to save 25min. like the other ones.
The language you/Johnny use for discussion is inadequate and simply shows why your were send to a colony.
I tried really hard, but i cant get this low - so you´re absolutely right with your position that we are not on the same level.

[jagov808]

With 3 rounds left and only Johnny to compete with, anyone in 2nd would have at least a 60% shot at winning. I agree the conversation between Johnny and Gohar is puzzling.

Folks, we've had testimony from all sides, you have the chat log, what do you say?

[johnnyblaz8]

With 3 rounds left and only Johnny to compete with, anyone in 2nd would have at least a 60% shot at winning. I agree the conversation between Johnny and Gohar is puzzling.

Folks, we've had testimony from all sides, you have the chat log, what do you say?

the only reason these 2 quitters "Gohar asked if he could leave so he's alright" left is because there the lowest class of ppl on the planet earth 20% of speedy's games are played with A.I's and 10% of mulefox's are played with A.I's they left because there 2 dick heads that where upset that i had 14 plots in round 6 if they would have stayed they would of easily of beat Gohar and would have increased there score but for some odd reason, maybe there just stupid they quit and got a bad rep and didn't get a couple easy win points       

[BRAD1867]

Check out how classy Mo is, this is the reason everyone loves him:)


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