BEWARE OF "NULL" THE FROZEN MAN

[mogs70]

HE FROZE GAME AT 7 WEEKS CAUSE HE'S LOOSING . A NEW AKIRE IS COMING?

[mopssamson]

I can confirm what mogs says. I am still stuck up in this stalemate game. What is more, Null waited about 20min until he pressed his button in summary 7 so that poor mametoc missed out his plot. Now we´re again stuck in summary 8. Nothing has been happening for another 30min. Great, isn´t it? Dancing to the MULE soundtrack is a rather tiresome alternative to playing the game. Greetings from mopssamson...

[mopssamson]

Now I´m all alone with Null. Sounds rather philosophical, but that´s actually the truth. Mogs and mametoc have abandoned the game - I´ll wait until the day of judgement then. See what happens. Game still frozen after 2:07 hours.

[mopssamson]

I abandoned the game after 3:50h. I´ll be cautious about certain hosts in the future.

[Null]

First and formost, stats speak for themselves:

6 losses - most of which I hosted
2 wins - first one was a 1v1 +2 bots.  second one was 4vs4 that ended up 1v1 +2 bots
0 abandons - It's still zero and I'll tell you why.


I few days ago I started my first account after watching a friend of mine play for some time.  I played the emu version for a little while but I'm nothing compared the the majority of people I've played in the lobby.

Here's what I've learned.

Top 300 players tend to kill off newbies at the start.  It's cutthroat from round one.  Usually the case is this: "You're probably a smurf".  So right off, your pegged as someone else with an alt account trying to get a better win streak.  So every new player is a threat at the start and the only thing we learn from ranked players is how to cutthroat someone in the 1st and 2nd round of the game.  At least people like ZX let you know that they play for keeps at the start.

Solution: Evade any ranked players.  This posses a problem, as most players that I see in the lobby because they cant host a game and they do not want to play with ranked players.  When non ranked players host a game, high ranked players are the first to fill that room, and the lobby clears out a little bit more every single time.


So I come to the conclusion that most high ranked players have such a high rank based on the seeming fact that they take advantage of new players without mercy.

I'll Respond to this in parts, as the text window on this forum is buggy.

[Null]

Now... Getting to last night...

I hosted a game and accepted 3 top 100 ranked players.  2 of which have already posted here, i forgot the others name.   Glad you're hear guys, so you can see just how great you guys are.....

At the start, I was cutthroated by not one of you, but all 3 of you from the start.  Round after round all 3 of you refused any mercy and refused me food and energy.  You took advantage of a new player, and the host of the game at that, from the first round.  As a good sport, I played on and on and on with no food, no energy, just a sea of empty plots.  So you might thing someone could just get bored at that point and quit a near hour long game.  Instead, I stuck it through till I finaly couldnt keep my eyes open anymore.  I dont even remember falling asleep.  At some point I woke up and went to bed.  When I woke, I came back and seen all the cool messages you guys typed.

I can understand frustration, but from what I read, you guys assumed I was someone else, and killed the game because i was loosing.  The very first things you said were this, and you dont even know me....

Personaly I dont care what you think mog.  I cant help that you were having a bad day, and I was your last straw before you wined on the forums about someone.  I guess the lesson here is... Dont take advantage of newbies and they wont fall asleep on you.

What suprises me is that you went through such extreems.  You posted not once, but twice on the forums about how I'm a cheeter, and you even sent a responce to the forum admin.

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Looking at forum and stats, saw complaints about you.  Noticing you seem to have potential, just a bit to learn, but as we speak, you left a group of players hanging, and that will get you a bad rep really fast that might take a while to recover from.

Recommendations while you learn how us cats play...

Play conservative, it can pay off, don't buy land if you won't have $500 after the auction.  That way you know for sure you can afford at least one mule, no matter the price of the mule.  Mules sell for double whatever smithore sold for in the previous action.  That means if the pays $230 a unit, mules are $460.  With $500, you can develop a food plot.

In round one, buying a plot is high risk even for the guys that are good with the tactic.  Paying $972, then praying to catch wampus in time to get a food mule out there.  If events don't play out right, you get hung.  I have had my share of games where I finished last because I couldn't get rolling the first 3 rounds.  I recently had a game where I couldn't put my second mule out til round 7, and I don't think I got all my plots developed by round 12.  Happens to everyone.  I've won a game here and there when I had the least land.

It's all learning how to plan ahead and predict what's coming, and even then, you can loose control, just takes one bad event at the wrong time.  We all fight to be in last place until we get to round 5 and then we power up and try to take 1st and hold it the rest of the game.  It's almost a challenge to do poorly in the beginning to get the bigger win later on.  The experienced guys are really good at it, and the game is all about gambles, but when learning, expect to lose, just try to learn how to minimize the loss, eventually, that skill will pay off as a win.  Early gains lead to larger losses.  Controlled small losses pay off big.  It's a balance.

Welcome to Mule.


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got to love that automated responce.

Anyways... I hope you learned your lesson Mog... I sure did.  lol    Dont trust an honest game with top 100 players.  Expect them to call you a cheeter when something out of their control takes place.




By the way, to show ya what a good sport i was, even though I was way lost by the 3rd and 4th round with no possible chances of catching up to you, I went ahead and played out that loosing game when I woke up, just so you could get your win.  Hope its worth it to ya.  You really deserve it....   Humble Pie.




For the rest... I look forward to playing many challenging games with you in the future.  If I play for keps too much, heh, remember, I didnt have very good rolemodels.


Peace!

[mametoc]

Sorry Null, but i disagree.

Host a game mean responsability, ironically you evade that in our post claiming that others are some sort of paranoics, and  caliming who, why, must think about the success.

[Null]

So it's a hand full of players who have the top most ranks on the playlist...

Look, in case you missread me, personaly, I dont care how those few play cutthroat from the start.  You can chalk it up to paranoia, but the fact remains, as words are said and actions are evident in playstyle, certain players act accordingly, specificly the ones initially whining here at the start.  I do understand, however, you frown upon taking advantage upon new players, am I correct? 

Your playstyle only effects who decides to play with you another time.  If you cutthroat, at least dont be a jackass about it and keep a player locked, especially if you want them to play through out the next 10 rounds.  It's not only a 1st place game.. It's also how you survive combined.  But, If you want to play that way, I cant help that people wont cut the game from under you.  Even though I stated the contrary, its assumed this was my tactic.  Either way, it's a game, get over it.  If this gives me a baaaad reputation for falling asleep at the keyboard, man, I certainly feel sorry for you guys and the state of this game.  The other 99% dont mind beating me at a game or 2. 

I understand responcibility.  I also understand poor sportsmanship on the flip side of that.  Call it what you will.  I'm not whining, as the op, or whatever you are, says... I'm stating my defence.  If you dont like it, I personaly dont care.


If you dont want to join in my host, dont.  There are enough "clicques" in PM to go around.  Yeah, even those... "I know chuckychuck.. he'll find out for me".    *sigh*  Makes me wonder how many adults actually play here.

[WhoosThis]

People hate new comers here NULL. This will calm down after you play more games. Everyone has a game where they have to go or lose connection every once in a while.

[rodz]

just played a game with null as host. he was well and truly beaten but kept playing till the end, i dont have a problem with him and i understand his problem about newbies. i will take them to a training game if there is no game on and try to show them the game, however a lot of them don't want to listen and charge into a tournament game and become disillusioned. most of us play to win and if you keep others down you have the best chance. it's a cutthroat game so learn the ropes before you start

[mopssamson]

For Null: Sorry, but I´m not a top 100 player, as you said in your contribution here. I´m number 300 something. So, as a new player, I understand your complaints quite well, but I just cannot remember anything wicked we did. It was just a normal game for me.  Maybe that´s just my moral corruption through MULE. ;-) Honestly, it is difficult to justify my or our actions because I don´t remember much from the game itself. However, I remember mametoc having problems with nrg, too: you were not the only one. In any case, I´d like to defend mametoc and mogs. They´re both decent players I have played several times. These were enjoyable games.
MULE can be a cruel game, it´s true. Maybe it should be less cruel for new players. Maybe we should have helped you out. I would have liked to know how you had been feeling about the game before you froze it for everybody. You didn´t give us the chance to know how you felt.
The last thing I wish to say is: MULE can be a highly frustrating game for EVERYBODY, not just for new players. But quitting is never an option, because it destroys the game and makes the community distrustful in general. Greetings from mopssamson

[Null]

I think most of us are missing the point here.  Personaly, I dont care about cutthroat tactics.  I was making a statement based on actions.  The point is, mogs made it a point to bash without knowing the details.  I had a newbie quit on me this morning, ironicly, at round 8.  I didnt get the points for the game either.  As a matter of fact, I think it showed up as games played, so thats a loss.  I'm not here complaining about it.  But my reason to me was legit.  I fell asleep.  The point of my defence was "If you guys haddnt cut me from the 2nd round on, i might not have fallen asleep" as sarcasm.  The truth of the matter is, yeah, I paid my 972 and got stuck after buying  plot of land.  The problem with not able to get started from that point till actually never was because it seemed as though there were some cahoots about not letting the new guy, or alt/smurf, as it was mentioned, not have a snowballs chance in hell.  Everything was bought out purposly round after round, but only when I went for it.  The 3 chums didnt have that problem.  And no, he didnt have a problem with energy till later in the game, right around the time I started to doze off.  By then, and from the go, I couldnt contribute because I was in food lock then finaly energy and food lock.

Again, I'm not complaining.  I should and do expect clique tactics among players.  I'm simply stating an observation.

The matter is... I fell asleep, so now I'm getting accused as a cheater, over and over and over and over. 

Not only did chuckie press the fact that i did such a baaaad thing in the lobby, but mog made it perfectly clear over and over and over...

Ya see, it's not childishness to defend yourself, it's childishness to have this omming at you every time you try to play a gme.

If you cant take someone falling asleep, oh hell.. get over it.  It's a game.  Why would you take your score so seriously that you have to piss and moan about it, non stop.  Even to the point that all three of you hold up great games because "i will not play with that cheater".  I dont think i've had a bad game save for you 3.   You asume it's a consipiracy because I "hit the spacebar 30 minutes later".  Big deal.  I might have hit it when I got up to goto bed.  I dont think I slept sitting up for 5 hours....

Now if you guys would grow up.. there are matches to be had.  If you dont want to play me, fine.  Dont expect me to stop caling you out.  You will have to give in eventually....

[Null]

I'm trying to chill out about this still, but I just can't get past the fact that I tried to do damage control PRIVATELY just to have it pasted openly, instead of getting a private response.  Mogs and I have not yet communicated about this at all and I'm accused of being some kind of Mule Cop.  It was a private conversation until Null made it public.  I'm not even mad about his hanging the game, I've done that inadvertantly, I sent the mail to verify it was accidental, and I get laid into, like I'm on Mogs side, I hadn't chosen a side.

Nulls a jerk no matter how he plays.  Doesn't matter if that makes me a jerk at this point.  It was not an automated response.  I am not admin, and I never talked to mogs.  I was going to check him out and either confirm with mogs or tell mogs to chill, but no, don't even give a hoot now.

Lemme tell you how you "handled it".

First off, you didnt ask me what happen.  You instantly send me a pm telling me how to play, assuming I did wrong.  You had to otherwise why would you send that to me?    To me it looked like a cut and paste.  If its not, then sure I would take offence to it.  There was no "I'm not saying you did..."  it was outright... This is how you play mule and if you dont do this people wont play with you because you will ruin your rep.  Reread your PM.  Its up for all to see.

It was addressed to me, so I can do what I like with it.  Especially when I was using it to express a point.

Forgive me, I thought you were someone as those guys talked about you like you were the mall cop.

But, you handled things so profesionaly that you decided to bring it up to everyone in the lobby.    And you expected me to be nice about it?  Even when I left it alone, and started playing a match, you continued on.  You actually started having conversations with people about how i'm such a bad guy.

You wernt trying to squelch anything.  You instantly jumped on the bandwagon, in PM, in the forums, AND in the loby. 

So because I made public your "private" message to me... which it is to me.. you decided that you should retaliate by running your mouth about something you knew NOTHING about untill I came in the lobby and set you strait?  Then when I called you on it, you didnt want to talk about it anymore... Till I was gone.  Then you went on again.

This is sportsmanship at it's best.  You call me a jerk, but it was the crybaby mentality of some that pulled you in and made you take sides to something you only knew one side about.



Honestly, I can care less if you and your chums play me.  There are lots of people that dont mind.  I'll be sure to return the favor when ya want a game and I'm the only one hosting.

[Null]

Guess childishness comes in all ages huh?

Look buddy... I dont give a rats ass.  You enjoy your lil clique.  Dont expect me to contribute to you for any reason.  I'll see you on the playing field.

[Mt-Wampus]

Doesnt sound to me like anybody at Planetmule is having much fun or getting along much anymore. Bunch of fighting and finger pointing as it looks. Sensativity run wild!