Tournament Mode - 12 Rounds
Need 4 players to start - Max 2 computer players allowed
Not showing computer player development
kipley joined the game in slot 1
Bumbes visits
kipley: Looking for a specific color, Bumbes? Or just waiting to see who else will show?
Bumbes: waiting for green
Added computer player <B.I.L.L.>
Bumbes joined the game in slot 3
<B.I.L.L.> was kicked
Bumbes: i read your post
kipley: Which one?
Sentry visits
Bumbes: general about host advantage
Sentry: hi there
kipley: Ah. Were you the one who originally suggested I shouldn't try for the final land grant if I was host?
Bumbes: hi
Sentry joined the game in slot 2
kipley: Sentry, have you played any training games?
Sentry: barely
Sentry: to be honest..no
Bumbes unjoined the game
kipley: Well, these tournys can easily be ruined if someone doesn't know how the game works
umikami visits
umikami joined the game in slot 3
kipley: I'd suggest creating a training game, and playing against the computer AI first, to learn how things work
Sentry: hm maybe i get the hang of it?
kipley: Play a training game against computer players first, then you can play in one of my tourneys
umikami: usually new players always quit
umikami: you should play against computer
umikami: to get the hang of it
Sentry: ah isee
kipley: Just disconnect from this game, and then click "new game" in the lobby and create your own training game
Sentry: thank you.let us play later then
M@D visits
kipley: Thanks for understanding
M@D joined the game in slot 4
Sentry unjoined the game
Bumbes joined the game in slot 2
Sentry: i am sure you´re right have fun
umikami: i don't understand why new players don't want to play computer for just one game
umikami: i find that odd
umikami: sentry hit space bar
kipley: disconnect, please, Sentry....
umikami: you can watch i guess
umikami: or disc
Sentry: will i see your turns?
kipley: If you want to watch, that's fine, Sentry... press space
kipley: Yes, you'll see our turns.
kipley: Good way to learn
umikami: you should read rules too
umikami: 5 minutes only
Round 1 of 12
Sentry: this indeed idid.but my english is not good at all
Sentry: whoops there ya go
umikami: which country?
Sentry: germany
umikami: how did you learn about the game?
umikami: who told you to download?
Sentry: i saw it on a tv show
Sentry: named game one
umikami: tv show in germany?
Sentry: yes
umikami: this is old game from 1980s
Bumbes: 1983 =)
umikami: so many players have played for 25 years
umikami: hehe
kipley: I played 25 years ago... but I haven't been playing FOR 25 years...!
Bumbes: well, i started 2 year late
umikami: i kept my c64
umikami: and it was on nintendo too
umikami: having it for mac is a dream
M@D: does your c64 still work?
umikami: i gave it to a friend years ago
Sentry: omg!space pirates!
M@D: yes!! they are not nice! :O
Sentry: sry but green player bought food at low price.why did the puple player did not buy?
Round 2 of 12
Sentry: next round he will starve?
umikami: strategy maybe
umikami: hehe
umikami: ask purple
umikami: hehe
kipley: Purple player had three food... didn't need any more
umikami: stupid blue wouldn't sell to me
umikami: hehe
M@D: had all the food I needed, 50% of ecessfood will spoil
Sentry: what does spoil mean? to spoil food
umikami: delete
Sentry: i see
Round 3 of 12
umikami: host advantage!
kipley: Yes, I should have waited to see if anyone else wanted to claim that plot, first....! ;-)
Sentry: do you have to chat if so? how to claim?
Bumbes: i know you wouldn't :p
umikami: it's just kind of lame
umikami: i wish there was better land grab
umikami: to make it fair
umikami: with lag
Bumbes: dedicated servers
umikami: he's gonna win because he's host
Sentry: th time is always ticking..so i bet no one plays "fair"
kipley: They don't even need dedicated servers... they just need better program logic
kipley: Such as, "wait a bit to see who's interested in the plot, THEN grant it to the lowest ranking player"
umikami: yep
umikami: so we all have equal chance
umikami: and lowest always gets
Bumbes: or ethic, btw i never called you unethical kipley
kipley: Well, the only reason one would refrain from grabbing a free plot of land would be because he felt ethically-bound to do so....
kipley: But yes, I didn't feel like you were attacking me
kipley: It's started a good topic for people to discuss
Bumbes: guess there
Bumbes: will be no big discussion
kipley: None yet.
Sentry: why i would ever buy chrystallite from another player?
Sentry: or whatever its called
Bumbes: as i said in the chat, if you like to win that way
kipley: They could just release a version that fixes the issue, then the discussion will be moot
M@D: If you think the price would go up in the future...
Bumbes: just win, i don't care that much
Round 4 of 12
umikami: crappp!!!!
umikami: now makes me mad
kipley: Didn't get much host advantage there... All three plots I tried for, someone else grabbed first
kipley: Never had three plots grabbed adjacent to mine by all the other players in a row like that, before! lol
Sentry: m@d this last mule wont produce,right?
M@D: my last one?
M@D: I had enought energy for it..
umikami: you know you can read the rules
umikami: and use google translate
umikami: to make it german?
umikami: www.google.com/translate
Sentry: sry im silent
Sentry: ty
Round 5 of 12
Sentry: bumbes and kipley. good job. just saw your guys ranking Oo
kipley: It just means we play a lot. The ranking isn't skill based at all
kipley: Total number of wins is all that matters
umikami: well that sucks!
umikami: but better than
umikami: losing land
Bumbes: just learn the basics and play alot vs noobs and ai... you just need time ;)
Bumbes: joking :P
Sentry: how do i spot a noob@mule?
kipley: Like you, they won't have any rank by their name, yet
Bumbes: make our own noob lol
kipley: You don't get a rank until you finish your first tourney game
kipley: I'm not buying
Sentry: xpensive food man
kipley: So don't keep pushing on my account
umikami: poor me
Sentry: this auction thing is fun
Round 6 of 12
umikami: orange has this ez!
kipley: Little early to call the whole game, methinks
kipley: I could still be left out of a big smithore swing
umikami: you'll win
kipley: I could also still get the lose a plot of land event
umikami: you got too much tite and ore
kipley: But I'll try and make your prediction come true, just so that I don't let you down!
umikami: i can't stop you
Sentry: xD
umikami: you could go all tite now and win
umikami: or play ore game and win
umikami: either way you win
kipley: I'm glad you're so confident. I'm more of a pessimist
umikami: dude you got 3 mountain plots
umikami: you'll be making lots of ore
kipley: I spend my time thinking of all the things that could go wrong
umikami: and you will then own us in tite game
umikami: it's ez win
umikami: unless i get two meteors
kipley: For example, I have crappy adjacency, so I'll lose out on that production bonus
Bumbes: it's round 6
Bumbes: a prophet is who can say who wins that, eh?
umikami: kipley is rank 3
umikami: and has good lang
umikami: land
umikami: i'm sure he knows what he's doing
kipley: Thought you meant lag, at first!
Bumbes: and he has the host advantage lol
kipley: I never know what I'm doing, I just wing it
umikami: yep
umikami: never trust top 10 host
umikami: hehe
umikami: i have never beaten akire
Bumbes: but i'll take care for that last turn land grab, no worry :D
Bumbes: never too old to learn, easy also
Round 7 of 12
Bumbes: basically you made me to think about host advantage in that case kipley, so if i play with a pressing host i'll take cae before
Bumbes: other advantages are minor, i can run for buying land
umikami: i would like his food rule to run away
kipley: It probably will run away this turn... since I just got rid of my backup food plot, by Murphey's Law....
umikami: i got a package this game
umikami: so i can't complain much
Bumbes: damn no energy chatting
umikami: see watch him win
kipley: Only because you guys sold me all your smithore last turn
umikami: you didn't have to buy it
umikami: hehe
kipley: Um, ok, my fault, I admit? ;-)
Bumbes: host advantage haha
Round 8 of 12
M@D: great!
Bumbes: lol you got it
kipley: Me?
Bumbes: not me
kipley: If so, that's a whole new host advantage
umikami: 11 plots
umikami: it's over
Bumbes: i had 11 dunno
Round 9 of 12
umikami: like there
umikami: you got plot second
umikami: shouldn't be like that
kipley: Agree
umikami: i had space bar pressed
umikami: this is why your win percentage is so high
umikami: grrr tot he host
kipley: I only host if there's not already another game being hosted
Bumbes: 11 energy i meant
umikami: he has 3 high tites i think
kipley: ...but I admit, since there's often no open games from other hosts, I usually do wind up hosting my own game
umikami: you should join akire game
umikami: he's always hosting
umikami: hehe
kipley: I would, if I didn't fear being kicked
Bumbes: guess hosting could do 4-10%
Sentry: why he would do such?
umikami: never play with akire
umikami: he's a cheater
Bumbes: depends how someone use the advantage
kipley: akire wins by kicking people and winning against the computer instead
Bumbes: playing noobs, ai, etc
kipley: There's no provisions in the scoring system to prevent that
Sentry: if i get kicked ai takes over?
kipley: Which is yet another reason why ranking is meaningless
kipley: Yes, AI takes over for kicked players
Bumbes: you play ai also from the beginning, kipley?
kipley: Some of my games have one AI player, if everyone is getting tired of waiting for a fourth human to show
umikami: that's lame man
Bumbes: lol yeah, i watched your lat played game, 2 noobs and d.a.n
Bumbes: *last
kipley: I suppose... but sometimes I just want to play. If there's only three players in the lobby, I'll play with them
Bumbes: i prefer to wait
kipley: Yes, that was a pretty weak game. But nobody else was joining. If there's 4 around who want to play, I'll play with four. But I'm not going to wait for hours.
Bumbes: well, maybe i'll change sometime
Bumbes: you played one more, eh?
Bumbes: you are for score
kipley: Not sure what you mean
Round 10 of 12
Bumbes: i meant you play for % sometime
M@D: save some for me!!
Sentry: last 2 rounds. i learned a lot while watching and rtfm besides
Sentry: and i think you are all good players
Bumbes: i enjoy to play with 4 players able to play
umikami: host meteor
umikami: this is lame man
Bumbes: you sometimes have no time to wait or play to win under all circumstances
Bumbes: anyway, gg ;)
kipley: I enjoy playing with 4 players, to. But don't feel the need to wait for hours for 4 to show up, if they're not showing.
kipley: Anyways, if you look at my history, you'll see that most of my games are against 4 players. Not as many as folks who will only play with 4, but still, the majority are.
umikami: look at his tite!
kipley: M@D's is better!
umikami: ok let's just finish
M@D: only by three
M@D: and you got the yummy meteore...
kipley: Yes, I programmed that meteor into the game. Host advantage!
Round 11 of 12
Bumbes: i found really only one point of host advantage that couldn't be that easy prevent
umikami: hit button and finish
umikami: ohh
Bumbes: uh, ore win?
umikami: maybe game loves us
umikami: hehe
kipley: Yep, that certainly makes things closer
umikami: you still win though
Round 12 of 12
umikami: kipley still wins
umikami: but it made it interesting
kipley: Good thing there's another round to play!
Bumbes: run umi
kipley: I like Bumbes gambit of hoping smithore is worth more than crystite this final turn... worth a shot
Bumbes: sometimes you lose, sometimes you win, it's about how you play
kipley: Good game, everyone
Bumbes: g
Bumbes: g
kipley: And stimulating converstation, to boot
M@D: gg
kipley: I guess umi is still AFK
Sentry: wow 12 rds sure take some time
Bumbes: i'll leave fast, there's one open... zx and rodz :)
kipley: Ok, I'll say "see ya" now, then!
Bumbes: you are an interesting human kipley, congratz here anyway :D
kipley: Thank you, kind sir
kipley: ...and I'm a flapper, not a human!
Bumbes: well, i'm packer
M@D: I'm the only human here, not sure thats good or bad thought! :D
Game Over
Saving score, please wait...
Score saved
kipley: gg, all
Bumbes left the game
M@D: gg
Bumbes was disconnected
kipley: see yas