Real-life MULE

[Death_Mule17]

Getting back to the mule thingy, thats not mule. Those are search and destroy units being tested, for later use. Just as ideas from George Orwell's "1984" are being used in 2011, so are they from Ray Bradbury's 'Fahrenheit 451' or Aldous Huxley's 'Brave New World'. In a world without big banks or a world elite, yes...that may have been a MULE. Unfortunately its strait out of Fahrenheit 451, remember the  dogs??
I have videos of this thing if anyone is interested, its built by the army so you wont see them running around toys 'r' us anytime soon.



DM

[Chuckie Chuck]

Funny how we ended up on this topic, but yes, the scientific community here on planet "Ape" are rediculously narrow minded.  This thought sums it up...

"If it doesn't fit our theorem, it can't be possible.  Our theory of how life evolved is the only possible answer.  If it can't occur naturally on this earth, it's impossible.  Even if it did happen naturally on this earth in recent history, it isn't possible.  Never mind that a single fossil spanned multiple geological layers.  Each layer still has to represent a period of millennium.  That fossil was a mistake.  It can't really exist, even though we can't deny that it does, and that the geologic column was made in a cataclysmic event similar to the events surrounding the eruption of mount st. helens in Oregon, U.S.A. We are scientist and we can't be wrong."

LOL, I really get the giggles about this thinking sometimes.  Noah's flood model works perfectly to explain the entire fossil record.  That involved world wide earthquakes, shattering of atmosphere, planet turning on it's axis type events.  Massive volcanoes like nothing we have ever seen.  All of it creating conditions that can be replicated on a much smaller scale and shown to have the same results.  (Explains the grand canyon, the tectonic plate shifts, the whole ball of wax.)

The scientific community at large (since Darwin wrote his book) has completely gone backwards on all of this.  They were closer to the truth on these theories before.  Granted scientific method was greatly improved since then, but the core issue of not practicing the theory correctly still exist.

[Mt-Wampus]

My problem with the alien theory is that it doesnt make sense if you believe in God and whats written in the bible. All the so called evidence points to Aliens looking different to humans on Earth and having visited us in space ships from the sky. In the bible it states that "God created man in his own image" and "God sent his only Son to us to die on the stake for our sins". If the bible is true then i can only come to a few conclusions.

(1) If God created us in his own image but all other life forms on other planets different then wouldnt that make humans on Earth the supperior beings of all planets. You would think that the planet with people resembling God would be #1. The leaders of all leaders.

(2) If there are so many different life forms out there then why did God send his only Son to die for us? Why us? Why not another planets inhabitants? Why us?

If the bible is 100% correct then i dont see how we can conclude that there are lots of inhabited planets filled with crazy looking creatures made by God just like we came from god. If there truly are alien life forms on other planets then you have to question the bible and its accuracy. If the bible is true then i just cant understand believing in aliens. Makes no sense to me personally. Either there are no life forms outside of our planet or the bible is wrong. You cant have it both ways in my humble opinion.

[Rogue Cat]

(1) If God created us in his own image but all other life forms on other planets different then wouldnt that make humans on Earth the supperior beings of all planets. You would think that the planet with people resembling God would be #1. The leaders of all leaders.

(2) If there are so many different life forms out there then why did God send his only Son to die for us? Why us? Why not another planets inhabitants? Why us?

If the bible is 100% correct then i dont see how we can conclude that there are lots of inhabited planets filled with crazy looking creatures made by God just like we came from god. If there truly are alien life forms on other planets then you have to question the bible and its accuracy. If the bible is true then i just cant understand believing in aliens. Makes no sense to me personally. Either there are no life forms outside of our planet or the bible is wrong. You cant have it both ways in my humble opinion.

First, our Bible is targeted to the audience in Earth. Pork meat might be bad for us but not for other species. Maybe grapes are poisonous for aliens in the same way that onion is for cats. The Bible doesn't have to be global at interplanetary level, each specie would have their own metabolism (example). Also, "at His own image" doesn't mean "exactly like Him". There are several ways to interprete those texts, however. What good would you have for advising about something that doesn't exist in your planet? It's like if they had told cavemen about spaceships or Gollumers at those ancient times.

Second, Jesus came to Earth being born as any other human to scold people because their fanaticism for the Law that was making them forget about the real message. Like forbidding someone to do any work on Sabbat, instead of understanding it as a way for the man to not being "exploited". Stupid apes! Maybe He reincarnated at another planet some other time to bring another message to some other civilization who needed it. Or maybe they didn't need it because of not being so mistaken fanatics as they were here. Who knows? We know our own story, because that is the one we need.

Can you imagine if an alien specie came to Earth and started preaching the same beliefs we have here? All marxists will 'commie' suicide. XD

* EDITED FROM HERE:

Sorry, I missed this post:

Let me guess; you heard about the microbes that have arsenic in their DNA haven't you?
I too don't understand why we only look at planets similar to Earth for life? Even kids TV shows have life in conditions unlike Earth and yet, scientists only look for Earth like planets. Blinded by intelligence. Anyone else notice that items that were once Science fiction are being explored as real possibilities? Science fiction writers must be modern prophets!
Furthermore, every great advance in technology has come as a product of war, Atomic energy, rockets, and electronic computers (ENIAC was made to create artillery charts) to name a few. Lets face it, our civilization is based around war.

Nope, I didn't know about the microbes, I just find more wisdom in nature itself than in science and their studies. Talking about SCI-FI writers, Jules Verne: To the moon(1865), submarine(1869)... he was an iluminated of his time. And about war, nuclear weapons have been the main reason for the longest peacetimes. Ironic, huh? But sadly, there is no other way to deal with stupid apes than striking fear in their hearts. And some other advances were just an accident, like peniciline. This is a crazy planet.

[Chuckie Chuck]

Well, actually the bible does support the idea of beings in other worlds.  Many interpret Revelation to be a painting of a stage in which Earth is the center of a cosmic conflict.  The heavenly host watch this planet to observe what unfolds when someone decides not to follow God's plan.  In this case it was the angel Lucifer the highest of all created beings previous to creation of Earth vs. Michael the Archangel (whom many interpret to be Christ.)

I was raised as a "Seventh Day Adventist" and there was a book written by the primary founder of the SDA Church called the Great Controversy.  I personally never read it through, but it is one example of such an interpretation of Revelation.

I would like to submit though, that if you really study Daniel and Revelation together in the light of symbolic bible prophecy, it is possible to come to such a conclusion, although probably not as colorful as it is painted in that book.

(and would also submit, this is not an endorsement of the SDA church, as I myself and not fully convinced the SDA church has everything right, and am not a practicing member.  I'm what I term to be a free thinker.  I still believe in God.  I still believe that one way or another, he created this world.  I am not committed to being a christian.  I believe God judges on the truth we know and whether we follow it or whether we are hypocrites.  On that basis, there will be Buddhist and Muslims, and possibly even Atheist in Heaven, and plenty of "professed christians" in every denomination, including SDA that will not be.  I don't think any one has it exactly 100% right, that's impossible.  That's part of the mystery of God.)

[Gmanster64]

I still find it funny how KID'S shows toy with the idea of extra-terrestrial life, not fitting our definition, but scientists are only looking at planets that could support Earth-like life. I'll say it again, blinded by intelligence.

[Chuckie Chuck]

Funny how we ended up on this topic, but yes, the scientific community here on planet "Ape" are rediculously narrow minded.  This thought sums it up...

"If it doesn't fit our theorem, it can't be possible.  Our theory of how life evolved is the only possible answer.  If it can't occur naturally on this earth, it's impossible.  Even if it did happen naturally on this earth in recent history, it isn't possible.  Never mind that a single fossil spanned multiple geological layers.  Each layer still has to represent a period of millennium.  That fossil was a mistake.  It can't really exist, even though we can't deny that it does, and that the geologic column was made in a cataclysmic event similar to the events surrounding the eruption of mount st. helens in Oregon, U.S.A. We are scientist and we can't be wrong."

Another thought, "If it can't occur naturally on this earth, it's impossible, but we still believe the Big Bang happened even though that's impossible."

[Gmanster64]

Well, actually the bible does support the idea of beings in other worlds.  Many interpret Revelation to be a painting of a stage in which Earth is the center of a cosmic conflict.  The heavenly host watch this planet to observe what unfolds when someone decides not to follow God's plan.  In this case it was the angel Lucifer the highest of all created beings previous to creation of Earth vs. Michael the Archangel (whom many interpret to be Christ.)

I was raised as a "Seventh Day Adventist" and there was a book written by the primary founder of the SDA Church called the Great Controversy.  I personally never read it through, but it is one example of such an interpretation of Revelation.

I would like to submit though, that if you really study Daniel and Revelation together in the light of symbolic bible prophecy, it is possible to come to such a conclusion, although probably not as colorful as it is painted in that book.

(and would also submit, this is not an endorsement of the SDA church, as I myself and not fully convinced the SDA church has everything right, and am not a practicing member.  I'm what I term to be a free thinker.  I still believe in God.  I still believe that one way or another, he created this world.  I am not committed to being a christian.  I believe God judges on the truth we know and whether we follow it or whether we are hypocrites.  On that basis, there will be Buddhist and Muslims, and possibly even Atheist in Heaven, and plenty of "professed christians" in every denomination, including SDA that will not be.  I don't think any one has it exactly 100% right, that's impossible.  That's part of the mystery of God.)

I interpret the Bible as "False delusions for the sole purpose of comfort in uncertainty".
EDIT: Change "The Bible" to "90% of the world's religions"

[Chuckie Chuck]

I am undecided about that myself, but that can be said of every single equivalent writing of other religions as well.

Like I said, I believe that if there is a heaven, people from every religion will be there, and people from every religion will be in hell as well.  It's whether you live life honestly or if you use your religion as a mask to say "look at me, I'm better than you, I'm on the path."

It is a fact however that as a historical document, the Bible has been proven extremely accurate when it comes to recorded history (ancient civilizations, etc.  Many of which were only proven to have ever existed in the last 50 years, were in the bible and in each of those cases, that record was proven accurate to time period)

While we can't prove anything before Noah's ark, everything since then is provable, including the existence of Noah's ark (which has in fact been located in Turkey not far from where the Bible stated it to have landed.)